That’s something your cult does. End of story. These lost fools were radicalised by Jay Smith who carefully groomed them. So basically to keep it simple, he wants to turn the public against the whole muslim community compared to most other Christian Apologists who simply wants to keep it at some kind of religious “debate” level against Islam…so simple common sense tell us this is hate speech.. And it also explains why some christians view him as too extreme, I forgot to mention that He also takes the topic of immigration to a fanatical religious level…, Judging from your comment, you seem to use the Hasty Generalization fallacy very often, which already made me guess what type of answer i expect from you…. And we think the same about you. Jay Smith is not a smart guy when it comes to branding and marketing. People like Mr heathcliff, Quranblog and Burhanuddin love to call Christians on this site pagans and other insulting terms. Classic moronic missing the significance. Beside engaging with Muslims at Speakersâ Corner and in mosques every week, she is involved in Christian-Muslim discussion, debates, and Bible studies, while also teaching and training â¦ A thought popped into my mind. how about the fictional stories in the old testament? It did not appear in the world until the 7th century and seems to contain materials written and in existence by human beings prior to its existence. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” (I Corinthians 14:34-35), “Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” (Genesis 3:16), “Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.” (Hosea 13:16), “If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silvers, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.” (Deuteronomy 22:28-29). Sahih International: Say, “O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you – that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah.” But if they turn away, then say, “Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].”. noun I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. The tables are turned on Bad Samaritan and his false religion! He told and retold it. In this video we see Hatun Tash, formerly of Pfander Ministries, and now of DCCI Ministries, along with her friend Daniel Zelalem, mock the Quran and call a KKK handbook the Quran. She still has not answered the question as far as I know. What a lying scumbag. She lives an evangelist lifestyle and has a big burden to share the gospel and to see the church equipped. So when Jude quotes from the apocryphal book of Enoch you also condemn it right??? In our last email exchange which a Christian radio/TV show presenter as CC’d in he called me all of the following: A “vile dog”, “slime” “Muhammadan dog” “swine”, “vile rabid dog”. If she does, I’d imagine she is there for the black demographic. Scholars have known for a long time that this myth is copied from pagan beliefs about the deities El and Baal (https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/16/the-book-of-daniel/). Pickthall: Western losers have used the taqiyya card as a hijacked word. NOT A PROPHET!!! Now go to sleep. If she was pegged as the “English” missionary it explains the low level English/Western Culturalist themes in her blog posts. ‘You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ). You start waving the tu quoque card and for some reason seem to think you’re doing yourselves and your religion a favour. We want you to believe in one God, not three in one and then to throw in there the word person and the word being and pretend that that is monotheism. 111 Rock Street, San Francisco [email protected] 1 (234) 567-891 It’s not surprising to a Muslim that the Bible contains evidence of the Israelites’ worship of Baal, given that the Quran speaks about how the Israelites turned to the worship of Baal. They will tell you moon god and satan cannot be used against Islam because Islam is clearly against those. Sorry you are unable to reason logically – must be because you are an imbecile. What’s unbeliebable is that you think that citing a book of hadith that was constructed 200 years after the events, taken from sources that no longer exist is somehow a slam dunk. Different people with different chains of narrators all saying the same thing. You are a moron, your blog is going to be moronic, and only morons like belieber and heathcliff would read it. Why Do M0slems Pray to M0hammad? He saw she was black and he pigeon-holed her. I’ll be frank with you, Hatun Tash and Lizzie are seen as mission field disasters. Non Muslims scholars And I don’t throw the taqiyya term around lightly as I fully understand that you Muslims have mostly abandoned the use of deception as it isn’t as effective a ploy as it used to be given the advancement of modern technology i.e. notice how jesus is clearly ritualistic. What are you afraid of little monkey? Clearly that stunt was designed for mockery; I would call for both Daniel and Hatun to sincere apology. https://celsus.blog/2017/09/02/review-of-craig-keener-otho-a-targeted-comparison-with-emphasis-on-the-citation-of-eyewitness-sources-and-textual-independence-of-historical-biographers/. Nothing. There’s Atlas going around calling Christians “Crosstians” for a start. This is specially problematic because the Quran and Muslims claim that there is not one letter is changed in the Quran. Christian scripture teaches that the God-man Jesus died on the cross for sinful mankind. We can trace back every word of the Quran all the way back to Muhammad via multiple lines of transmissions. They quote apocryphal sources you idiot. Instead he just effectively gave her sheets of paper and told her to read off the script in the aggressive style of Hatun Tash and Beth Grove. When thou dost read the Quran, seek God’s protection from Satan the rejected one. Your insults will not prevent me from my crusade against worshiping man, God-man, creature-God like cow, creature God like man, monkey, Haile Selaissie, Jesus Christ, Sai Baba, Ali etc. “hose are Paul’s in words 1 Corinthians, not Jesus’” How does your sign argument work when 2Peter is a forgery? Your potato from tarsus got his gospel from Jesus: Your hairy goat god is just like any other goat in his oneness. Not that scholars believe that what you have are eyewitness accounts anyways. Will you aplogize?” LOL, so what you’re saying is you find Jesus’ commands to turn the other cheek to be impossible to follow in the real world? Most Jews and some Unitarian Christians agreed with the Quran when it teaches and reminding people to worship only one God of Abraham and not “3 persons 1 God”, that is not in the Bible. The OT is all oral tradition idiot. “Again, this is an extravagant claim that requires evidence – you don;t have any. -Dr. John L. Esposito of the Georgetown University. Two Years After the Police Killing of Philando Castile, Justice Continues to Be Denied, Hell hath no fury like millions of women done with being f*cked over, Why the War on Christmas Isn’t What You Think, The Design of Segregated Public Bathrooms: Victorian, Jim Crow, Trans, and Disability, Gender Neutral Dolls Are Finally Here and They Need To Stay, Autistic Uprising: a New Rebellion of Hearts and Minds, Blood on the Pavement: White Supremacy Guides our Response to the Shooting of Megan Thee Stallion. -“Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. Who cares if YOU think we’re bad “ambassadors”? -Dr. Graig Considine It is shame; you and Joel are embarrassing yourselves. No, it’s a straighforward way of saying that qb is an idiot who used links to his own stupid articles to support the arguments if his articles, you moron. Even your 2 Peter is a forgery! Luke copied Mark too. Most of the books in the NT are written by unknown potatoes. Lesley Hazelton, a Jew. don’t lie any more. How many times do I have to tell you that I am a Muslim, not a crosstian idiot. And even if he did, with all the Islamic terrorist attacks, grooming gangs, growing number of no-go areas and various regressive attitudes all primarily being instigated by Muslims across the west on a regular basis, maybe he has an actual point? He didn’t. the internet making your sacred sources far more readily accessible.”. 53They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection ande went into the holy city and appeared to many people. What pagan fairy tales? the internet making your sacred sources far more readily accessible. His authority is over those only, who take him as patron and who join partners with God. Hmmmmm…..Well i remember he said in public that he thinks muslims gonna kill him which i guess you know what he wants to prove, he also talked about how he’s worried about the growing influence of muslims(remember the pork story video in which he says muslims want to impose our code) and the list goes on….this pretty much shows he fits the category of a hate preacher…, You also brought up the case of “Islamic” terror attacks…well that’s the dividing point, there’s a lot of Christian Apologists who are against Islam but they don’t go in public and shout on roads to target the whole Islamic community and preaching how dangerous we are and, *and saying that we might kill them and also preaching that we’re gonna impose our values on that society, You also talked about the terms used against christians in this blog, well this was my point when i talk about “Apologetics”…there’s a difference between an Apologist and a hate preacher…Infact i never heard Paul williams or Ijaz or any other muslim apologists shouting on the road that Christians gonna kill us or that Christians want to forcefully impose their values on us and i’ve also never heard them spreading fear of christians in public…. Isiah 45:5 Home › Islamophobia › Pray For Hatun Tash, So She Becomes More Loving. This is the best you have? Reminding you of what exactly the Bible said? If the UK was more litigious I would imagine they would be encourages to sue Jay Smith of (or formerly of) Pfander Ministries. No. You’re not going against the so-called words of your beloved property are you? Jay Smith talks with Al Fadi about the many different Qurans that he and Hatun Tash found. Jews of Arab decent like Palestinian Jews worship Allah. Apparently you have trouble reading (and counting for that matter). Here is why.. James White Is Not Impressed by David Wood’s Arguments and Behaviour, https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/16/the-book-of-daniel/, https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/the-book-of-revelation/#_ednref95, Christian Women Have To Wear Hijab According To The Bible, 1 John 5:7 And Matthew 28:19 - Fabricated Trinity Verses. She looked the part they wanted. There is one Azmaveth = Azmot (“strong as death) 2 Sam 23:31. No one who can validate what they say. My comment went down below to the bottom please check it…seems i forgot to click on reply…sorry for the inconvenience…. It’s amazing these crosstians whenever confronted with inconsistency they cry out ‘tu quoque fallacy, tu quoque fallacy, tu quoque fallacy!!!!! Prove those are made up. Baal names existed in the Hebrew culture until editors thought it better to censor them. Do you also drink camel urine when your feeling sick? Allegory, really? YOu are an idiot. ... Hatun Tash Removed for Blasphemy â YouTube. Yet another ‘reply’ that doesn’t answer my question. I’ll gladly be proven wrong on that. You do not know you are ignorant and that is insanity by depending on sources related to Robert Spencer, Sam Shamoun, David Wood, Nabeel etc. All it means is tat 33000 muslims were ignorant and gullible. So there she was preaching with a feminist hat on. So most of them are reliable. That makes you a gullible idiot. To ultimately become another queen of mean personality characterised by these 15 exhibitions of Jay Smithism. The Quran that Uthman had was AFFIRMED by his committee. Is the Torah for example (that God GAVE to Moses) not part of the eternal word of God? As if not having the name at the end of the book makes it unreliable. 5 Islam is a menace in our world. The irony is that according to the Biblical Jesus, they are the dogs, just like the Syrophoenician woman. There’s a difference between an apologetic and a hate preacher, infact Jay Smith is an apologetic but maybe he fits the category of hate preacher as well due to the fact that he promotes the fear muslims…no wonder he’s considered extreme by some christians…, I meant “Apologist” instead of “Apologetic”…sorry about that. 3 Islam is forceful and not accommodating. you said matthew is an “eyewitness”. Sadly, it’s a sign of the times. In this case, although I do encourage a public apology, I won’t ask for it myself as it may be that Lizzie, Daniel and Hatun believe their comments were acceptable according to their Church tradition. “You moron – you linked to your own stupid work. ( Log Out / Hatun Tash is a Gospel preacher- since she is now a Christian of course ... âTo the law of the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.â [K.J.V.] Just type her name into YouTube and see the comments about her. Where is your evidence that “33000” muslims gave their approval to your holey book, and why should I respect anyone who claims that a book with obvious plagiarisms from human sources is divine? Categories: Islamophobia, Speakers Corner, Tags: beth grove, dcci ministries, hatun tash, jay smith, pfander ministries, sam shamoun, samuel green. You are using the same arguments that atheists use against the bible.”. No one is forcing you to chat with us. Wtf is this? he thinks that it is beneficial/fair/right to give the holy bread to the JEWISH children, but it is not fair/beneficial/right to CAST holy bread at the non-Jewish girl. Do you personally believe women have deficient intellect? Not pissed at all stupid. NT writers use allegory for teaching purposes and don’t claim they are citing the LITERAL ETERNAL WORD OF GOD. if he saw them leave, didn’t he shit himself and tell his readers how scared he was? #LoveNotHate By yahyasnowblog on October 5, 2017 â¢ ( 96). (2) He is the “creator of everything” (6.102). Jesus would be proud (seeing how he send two bears to shred 42 boys to pieces, but being vile and toxic is the next best thing I guess). “Will ye call upon Baal and forsake the Best of Creators,- “Allah, your Lord and Cherisher and the Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of old?””. Mr Brown is a christian. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.” (I Corinthians 14:34-35. The reasonable conclusion is that the quran plagiarizes man made stories that existed before islam, the less reasonable conclusion is that the quran is divine. Folks, this is the fruit of irresponsible teachers and/or influences who are antagonistic towards Muslims â¦ Iâve been to âSpeakerâs Cornerâ, but that was many moons ago. Do Jay Smith’s Pfander Centre for Apologetics Really Preach Trinitarian Views on Jesus? This is just another example. “God’s triune oneness is different to ours in …” The funny thing is that even the crossdressing pervert david wood admitted that the moon god is basically bullshit. Sadegh's Testimony Story Is An Embarrassment to Ch... SaRa Garvey Dishonouring Marcus Garvey's Name; ... Hatun Tash and Beth Grove will reflect on why Jay Smith's Pfander Ministries and Pfander Films has accrued such caustic and extremist anti-Muslim followers over the years. Besides are you gonna tell us that if Paul said those things, Jesus ain’t cool with that? 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. The reasonable conclusion is that the quran plagiarizes man made stories that existed before islam, the less reasonable conclusion is that the quran is divine. Sam wants to “muzzle” my “rabid mouth”. Everyone here knows you deliberately answer a question which I did not ask loser. Shall I show the evidence again you simian loser? I meant “can you please show me”….sorry i missed typing the words. Is he the god of loser howler monkeys? That is circular you fool. Jesus loves you kid. We’re here because we care and don’t want to see you end up in hell. School is important for little kids. “according to the example of your prophet.” Just pure denial. ALLAH is called the ever living. We have absolutely NOTHING from any apostles of Jesus who approved the NT. When Matthew quotes from the book of Nathan yo would condemn that as well right cus that book is not found in the OT.”. You have claimed that your holey book is uncorrupted and is a pristine copy of the original – you don’t have the original, so your claim is as much nonsense as the nonsense book you are making claims about. #LoveNotHate; Dr Yasir Qadhi: the Qur'an is much better preserved than the New Testament; Nouman Ali Khan: his official statement refuting the allegations "Eli Eli lama sabachthani" - a case of misquoting Psalms? And you are arguing in circles – the quran was written down by Ibn Thabit because the hadith says it was written by thabit. What a joke. 4 It is a murderous ideology. I can’t believe you still keep going with your pathetic oneness argument. Your Bible has pagan mythology in it, and you are avoiding this embarrassing problem like the plague. Perhaps, you should direct your rage towards him. You Muslims are a strange bunch. Allah (swt) sent the prophet Elias (pbuh) to bring them back from their idolatry: ” So also was Elias among those sent (by Us). If he got the gospel from jesus as he claims then those are eventually jesus’ words. No religion believes women are deficient in intellect than the religion of Jesus Christ. Incredible. you can repeat like a DOG many times, but the truth is that your texts are written by unknown anonymous people . Perhaps Hatun and Lizzie Schofield believe insulting non-Christians is biblical as Jesus was harsh in the NT at times. 1. why matthew did not relate his interaction with the dead saint? Scholars see parallels between this “vision” and the pagan stories about the birth of the sun-god Apollo (https://quranandbibleblog.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/the-book-of-revelation/#_ednref95). You go around and throw out your usual ‘we are love, jesus is loooove, we are all all loving, we don’t hate’ propaganda. Well that’s what I believe yes. You have an oral tradition which is not known. This type of anti-Muslim abuse, mockery and provocation is toxic. Have problem with Jesus Christ first before anyone else when it comes to deficiency in women intellect. The triune god has experiential feelings of dying i.e while your god was dying ALLAH was everliving i.e DEATH does not TAKE over ALLAH while it does your god. Quran 41:37 What makes Jay Smith, Hatun, Lizzie and Beth Grove ‘hate preachers’ and you, Hashim, Mansur and co and some of your brothers who frequent this blog not? A rare breed in the church and rarer breed at Speakers Corner. #LoveNotHate. On top of which having the ‘signature’ means absolutely nothing if there are no people to affirm whether that person wrote it or not. Just between the Warsh and the Hafs copies, there is five thousand differences. Jay Smith, a professional missionary leader, just wrecked the reputations of his subordinates. And btw I don’t kill women for no reason like the biblical god. Sorry to disappoint you but Allah is not the one true God. so what was the literal female wisdom of yhwh which became SHEmale siting targumic renderings of original hebrew? Along with the other âheroinesâ like Hatun Tash. So God doesn’t know until a certain point in time? Which is another way of saying: In other words be a chameleon. “YOU made a claim, moron, that 33000 muslims witnessed this “miracle” – where’s the evidence?” “NT writers use allegory for teaching purposes and don’t claim they are citing the LITERAL ETERNAL WORD OF GOD” This is what I wish I had known when I first came in contact with Muslims who were active â¦ “Sadly, we have no idea who actually wrote the quran down” “I don’t need to demonise anybody here, you and your fellow Muhammadanists do a good enough job of that all by yourselves. If there are no people to affirm it really comes from him then wth does it matter? Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Make a point or go back to beating your wife, stoning adulterers,murdering apostates and flinging gays off skyscrapers. So Matthew isn’t the writer of the gospel according to Matthew cus why on earth would an eyewitness go to a non-eyewitness and copy his book. (Sahih al-Bukhari 4986). Why do you worship a pagan Canaanite deity, Coco? You are so sad and pathetic – you’ve bitchslapped no one except – probably – for your own wife according to the example of your prophet. Pure bullshit! I would encourage Hatun to apologise. They are now saying that the ‘I am’ statements were not uttered by Jesus. Samaritan, i do agree they shouldn’t offend you and your friends by calling you those names…. As we learnt, Hatun’s teacher calls Muslims “sewage”. It is possible Las Vegas was an ISIS attack after all. The Quran is just reminding you what the Bible said. Reblogged from his Jesus Creed. I already told you that 33000 Muslims (including Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman) gave approval of the Quran. Samaritan, those were my replies…sorry for the inconvenience by the way…. Church of England Churches Asked To Investigate Beth Grove! Listen, howler monkey, you are a pathetic ambassador for your religion. But I wont keep my hopes up. Firstly the Muslims MEMORIZED the Quran (like in their prayers for example). So I started looking for the Qur’an and collecting it from (what was written on) palme stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, till I found the last Verse of Surat at-Tauba (Repentance) with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, Sahih International: Say, “O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you – that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah.” But if they turn away, then say, “Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].”. The following are some of the citations I employed in my talk on the Lordâs death and resurrection with Christian apologist and evangelist Hatun Tash of DCCI ministries ( THE MATERIAL IN 1 CORINTHIâ¦ This moronic crosstian ‘argument’ that you crosstians have come up with is without a doubt one of the most STUPID ones by far. Or whatever the missionary equivalent of type cast is! As for the KKK, that is even more irony given that the KKK uses the Bible to justify it’s racism. Can you read what I said? The rest of your posts are a load pretentious bs not worth addressing. You can’t get any more dumb. 1:11-12 says: “For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. He said to turn the other cheek. If I understand correctly, Mr Shamoun, takes the view his insults are not in contravention with Christian behaviour. You think that’s not good enough cus you want the original. Your blog is dumb, you are dumb. Paul quotes from pagan sources and claims his ‘gospel’ to come from Jesus himself.”. - David Wood (Acts17Apologetics) Simple answers: Because M0hammad CREATED their god. To listen to a great explanation of this practice by a Jewish lady and a couple of Muslim scholars please see here. from AcademicBiblical. Just go back and read some of their replies to Joel, Paulus, Erasmus and me. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty..(till the end of Surat-Baraa’ (at-Tauba) (9.128-129). A response to Western academics who categorise Salafis into: Quietists, Politicos and Jihadists – and why this is a false categorisation. No authority has he over those who believe and put their trust in their Lord. They are now fully-fledged hate preachers. Abu Bakr said (to me). That’s exactly why your biblical (most of the crosstians) scholars are ripping apart your comicbook as we speak. He also saw her as a woman and pegged her in the feminist bracket. And you come up with an invented argument that holds ZERO credibility. The Verse is: ‘Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. So why didn’t they get Hatun to do the same? Could you show me where the Ibn Thabit copies are? In order to preserve the flow of conversation about various posted items, and also in order to make it easier for visitors to find the list of related links being shared by other readers, regulars and interested parties in one place, each day a post is automatically created at a minute past midnight ET. For perspective on the limits of science, here's Aunt Matilda's Cake. “Sorry you are unable to reason logically – must be because you are an imbecile” So much for your sign argument. Blame the Bible not the Quran. LOL!! Karyn Armstrong, a former nun. It’s unbelievable. Bible. Do not worship man. You just have to take their word (not God’s word) for it. You can’t. It was on a post about Jay Smith. “For who is God, but Yahweh? In actual fact, this deity is part of the myth involving Baal, so ironically, it’s you who follows Satan. Who wrote them potato? Here are examples of pagan mythology in the Bible: 1. Why didn’t he market her as a nice,caring motherly type? Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostate to Allah , who created them, if it should be Him that you worship. NT writers use allegory for teaching purposes and don’t claim they are citing the LITERAL ETERNAL WORD OF GOD. Coco is like a 10 year old throwing a temper tantrum! You just don’t touch people without their permission. She’s now not even part of the organisation and is seen as a joke online. “No, it’s a straighforward way of saying that qb is an idiot who used links to his own stupid articles to support the arguments if his articles, you moron.” Paul quotes from pagan sources and claims his ‘gospel’ to come from Jesus himself. Change ). No one believes John wrote John except blind idiots who are desperate to hang on to what some of their early church daddies said. Where does Jesus say women have deficient intelligence, dummy? Here we go Coco and the other Christian clowns. I’ve noticed that people like Bad Samaritan will complain and whine about Muslims but will never admonish their own. Which you can’t . We want you to leave these pagan belief as well and accept true monotheism. No one believes Peter wrote it even though it claims to be written by Peter. Allah is a false moon deity that pre-dates Islam which the pagan arabs worshiped. Arab Christians worship Allah. So you should search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur’an and collect it in one book.” By Allah If they had ordered me to shift one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Qur’an. I suggest you learn Islam from the following Christians who are Islamic scholars. Maybe your fellow losers Cerberus and Bad Samaritan can help you, since you obviously seem helpless. Why didn’t he just think hold on, I’ve got a new face here, I can try to do something different with her. So the 33000 Muslims who approved just don’t matter he lol. Ooooo dududududu. I gave you the Hadith even then you just choose to ignore it. You can’t. Hardly is the tale of him dying on a cross any different from the pagan tales of Greece’. All this despite him being on record admitting his polemical approach does not work in Europe. Hahahaha! You have been avoiding this question for a while. Charity begins at home. You are the one who is making the claim that the Quran copied from those sources and that those stories are false. We have an oral tradition and hadith science. Hmmmmm….i guess you’re the type of guy who likes to generalize…. How is the oneness of the Father OR the Son OR the HS different from ours? Modern historians of the NT agree with me. “I’m busted and my comicbook can’t stand that criticism so I’ll just throw something out there to not appear embarrassed even his answer is base on my self invented arguments. The trinity is pagan and a belief in three gods no matter how much you claim it’s monotheism. “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. IIRC Sam Shamoun justifies his hard-line stance by claiming Jesus was harsh with certain people in the NT. If you’ll answer one question then just answer this for the Love of God: ” It’s impossible for thousands of people to memorize large portions of the Quran and then all of a sudden magically forget everything.”. It says it’s written by Peter but it’s not written by Peter. The Jews call this Shomer Negiah. New International Version I don’t actually buy your love nonsense. . New International Version !’ O boy! Your claim is that there are pagan stories, christian heretical apocrypha, and rabbinic religious speculation contained within the eternal quran when we know without the shadow of a doubt that these works come form pre-islamic pagan arabia, or were written anywhere between the 2nd and 6th centuries. So yea those are Jesus’ words. I’ve forwarded these abusive emails to my friend, reverend Samuel Green. “he sad thing is we know exactly where the Quran is coming from and who wrote it down.”. Now either man-up and answer the question or get lost and grow up a little more. We have nothing like that of crosstianity. No, there is no need to apologize to someone who is ignorant and cannot provide a coherent and thoughtful response. If you weren’t such a lazy moron, you would click on the links and see that I have given scholarly references. I’m not interested in your stupid blog nor its stupid articles. Posted on June 27th, 2020 by jabejabe So sad. What a bunch of hypocritical whiners! eyewitness If we didn’t love you we wouldn’t care about you following a false religion, founded by a false prophet, preaching a false God, according to a false book. This poor lady, Hatun Tash of DCCI Ministries, is so obnoxious, rude and disrespectful towards Muslims and their faith on a regular basis. Nope, you guys worship an old guy with white hair. Stuff one would expect to hear from Britain First or “English culturalists”like Jack Buckby. who are not Islamic scholars to learn Islam. Let us assume there’s a bunch of christian minority in a particular muslim country and also let us assume there’s a tiny minority of extremists within the christian community who conducts bombings sometimes…so one day a Radical Muslim Preacher takes on the street and start targetting the whole christian community for the actions of a few…he starts yelling that christians want to kill him, christians want to impose their way of life or christians are too dangerous and we don’t want any more of them in this country otherwise they would kill me or whatever and he also instill fear of christians in the general muslim population…So, you would call this hate preaching because he’s unfairly generalizing against a whole community right? Paul Williams at Speakers’ Corner, London. the jews are the masters and the dogs eat near their feet. Follow Blogging Theology on WordPress.com. Forgot about that one? I was wondering where you were. Gideon is called Jerubbaal (Jdg 6:32) and is referred to as Jerubbosheth in 2 Sam 11:21 (with Baal replaced by “shame”). He brought her into a group which is in-your-face and antagonistic towards Muslims and Islam. Even if they got their info from eyewitnesses that still doesn’t mean shit cus they themselves are anonymous works and hence could be making shit up lol. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. Then I said to Abu Bakr, “How will you do something which Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) did not do?” Abu Bakr replied, “By Allah, it is a good project.” Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allah opened my chest for what He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and `Umar. “You alone [bad] are Yahweh.” Nehemiah 9:6 What proved to be a fake feminist hat. Get used to it – you worship a creature. Even if they weren’t, paul is an apostle according to you so whatever he says in his letters is scripture and hence Jesus approves. How Jesus Became God From Good Teacher to Divine Savior. Wasn’t there a recent case of Muslims threatening to stab a kemet guy in speakers corner and other threatening behaviour towards non-Muslims? Not: What a vile and disgusting filth you are. Daniel 7:9ff incorporates Canaanite pagan imagery to describe as an aged man with white hair. “They were not dictated to him word for word like it’s alleged about your silly Quran.” With MANY more hundreds of years. And you called my comments “bs” when you’re the one who brought up a hypothesis to defend Jay Smith and ignoring the other points that i’ve written…on top of that your hypothesis doesn’t help Jay Smith at all…, Sorry for the typo by the way, i meant “see” instead of “sew”…, “”you please show me which derogatory terms which the authors of this blog has used against the general christian community?””. 3 Islam is forceful and not accommodating. Blame the Bible not the Quran. People memorized it. But if you’re claiming that it’s not the same as Uthman’s version than the burden of proof is on you to prove it. Jewish lady and a couple of Muslim scholars please see here. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” (I Timothy 2:11-14), “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. Just a shame for you it’s a false God. I missed slapping you around. ” pagan fairy tales, christian apocrypha, and rabbinic talmudic speculation” Instead of asking yourselves the question “why is our prophet, the so-called greatest example for humanity, making such a harsh idiotic misogynistic and demonstrably false statement?”, you deviate and run straight to the bible in a desperate attempt at justifying Muhammed’s nonsense. Clearest sign of other gods? Please grow up. I’ll post the examples again later when I get home, InshaAllah. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Not me. main page. Besides suggesting somebody might kill him in no way constitutes hate preaching. How about you live up to those self proclaimed titles. â YouTube. Wow, such a shame a soul is wasted on the waste that is crosstianity. She was the brown face with a foreign accent. Sad panda. Buahahahaha. The man calling the young Muslim gentleman a “fool” and likening him to a “dog” and his faith to “vomit” is something Daniel (and Hatun, seen as she was laughing) should apologise. was jesus /logos believing in them as LITERAL history? And who is a rock, except our God” Psalm 18:31 You can’t go around making people so uncomfortable, regardless of whether you think it’s harmless fun. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me, Quran.3:64 Why does your Bible borrow from pagan mythology? These folks believe they are followers of Jesus and are indwelt with the Holy Spirit. And by the way, can you please which derogatory terms which the authors used against the general christian community on this blog? Saul had a son called Ishbaal (1 Chr 8:33) transformed into Ishbosheth (2 Sam 2:8). I gave up on the Christian love message a LONG time ago. It’s not plagiarizing like your NT potatoes do. LOL!! I’m not talking about your trinity. Actually, Allah (swt) is the One, True God. And the fact that Bart Ehraman in his debate with Craig Evans said this and Craig couldn’t refute it just goes to show what a joke your holey bible is. No! Who wrote Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, Hebrews, etc? Muhammad and the sahabah would be proud your behaviour. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. An old dog cannot be taught new tricks — Smith was that old dog. “O and btw how is the oneness of the Father OR the Son OR the HS different from ours?”. Hatun Tash invades a Muslim man’s personal boundaries and hugs him despite him not giving her permission and not wanting contact with a female who is not a family member – all in an effort to cause drama. ˈʌɪwɪtnəs/Submit “What’s unbeliebable is that you think that citing a book of hadith that was constructed 200 years after the events, taken from sources that no longer exist is somehow a slam dunk.” But you Christians find that impossible to do, and so you essentially make a tu quoque argument like “I am insulted. When you can’t take the heat then you shouldn’t dish it out! Please respect people’s boundaries. Buahahaha you again. You mean the ones that Paul quotes twice? “there is plenty of reason to beliebe that these accounts are largely accurate. 1 Hatun tash 2 David wood 3 Christian prince One sure thing about Islam is coercion 1 Islam hates criticism. She’s clearly a victim of people with nefarious agendas who instilled such a venomous spirit of confrontation into her with respect to Muslims and Islam. Gets Christians up the learning curve quickly with the apologetic fundamentals for talking with Muslims. What a pathetic display. This is an interesting article by Dr Scot McKnight a distinguished American New Testament scholar and Professor of New Testament at Northern Seminary in Lombard, IL. Pray For Hatun Tash, So She Becomes More Loving. That could have something to do with the probability that the guy received death threats? Pathetic! Jesus was clearly ritualistic . How is the oneness of the triune pagan god different from ours? You have shown yet again how utterly bankrupt you are in your faith. Samaritan, Why don’t we play a little swapping game? “Could you show me where the Ibn Thabit copies are?” Your religion is pagan, founded by mostly unknown potatoes based on an oral tradition which is unknown. End of story. After spending several years as a committed Muslim, he began to doubt Islam. Is Christian Persecution Complex Harming Muslim-Christian Dialogue? Why would he bring in an extra body to do something he knows to not work? Folks, this is the fruit of irresponsible teachers and/or influences who are antagonistic towards Muslims and Islam. And yet you have the audacity to make your moronic claim. They didn’t just hear it ones and that was that. So what if he links to his articles. Isaiah 13:21 refers to mythical beast known as “satyrs” which were common in Greek mythology. Uhh yeah those are Paul’s in words 1 Corinthians, not Jesus’. There she was type-cast. “You have claimed that your holey book is uncorrupted and is a pristine copy of the original” Hurray! He made her do the same things he and Beth Grove were doing. Testimony: Former Muslim Shares His Journey from Islam to Christianity Reza Aslan Helps Christians Prove the Resurrection of Jesus Muslim Scholar Reza Aslan Admits That the Quran Is Wrong about Jesus 12 Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! Now quit stalling you cowardly simian and answer. I gave you so many verses from your Bible where your God and your prophet Jesus Christ at the same time says women have deficient intellect. I mean really? Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Was Jay Smith producing a “Christian missionary” or was he producing a culturalist? For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ”. So, so, stupid. Sadly, we have no idea who actually wrote the quran down – they are not signed, so whoever did it could have added all kinds of politically or religiously convenient rubbish. Respect goes both ways. “great faith” involves that christian women EAT near the feet of the jews. Not throw out the pathetic ‘ow you’re linking your articles so therefor you are wrong’. Maybe someone should point this out to these idiots. Was she a former Muslim as folks will have us believe? You can’t validate any your ridiculous claims Idiot. So you couldn’t prove anything. Your NT is written by mostly unknown potatoes. Every M0slem Should be a Terror!st - Mullah Zakir Naik. “You alone [bad], Lord, are God.” Isaiah 37:20. Daâwah is the islamic equivalent to christian mission; the arabic words irsalyyat (missions) and tabshir (evangelism) are not used to describe this work. So sad! There are still a few other traces that are easy to spot in the theophoric names to be found in the bible. Iâll be frank with you, Hatun Tash and Lizzie are seen as mission field disasters. I gave you the Hadith even then you just choose to ignore it.”. Itâs Not All Fun and Games! Hatun Tash’s unwanted touching would be seen as offensive and disturbing. If you claim that Jesus breathing into clay birds and giving them life is a made up story then the burden of proof is on you. Now that’s a false god. Again, this is an extravagant claim that requires evidence – you don;t have any.
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